FOXNews.com - Politics - Hundreds of Teachers Caught Cheating

Consider this a primer for my education post that is forthcoming. This is article is great. Rather than teachers spending the time TEACHING the subjects that the students are tested on, they coach them on the standardized tests that judge performance. What a great use of time. So when the students enter the workforce, they still don't know crap...but they can certainly pass the standardized test that judges teacher/school performance....and the best part is that the teachers keep their jobs!!!!

This quote says it all, "...But others say they put an enormous amount of pressure on teachers to make sure students pass, because if they don't, the whole school might end up facing consequences."

Personal accountability for teachers/schools? NEVER. It's not fair! It's too much pressure...whine, whine, whine. If the NEA would spend as much time teaching students as they did whining, we'd put out the best students in the world.

You don't hear private school teachers whine about performance-based testing. Why? Because keeping their job is based on Performance! Tenure is near meaningless. Competition creates performance. They are up to the challenge. Private schools RAISE standards and require student performance. The NEA corrupts young teachers and adds them to the whining bureaucracy that performs inefficiently and lowers standards in order to make themselves look better.

More to follow.


Blogger eskadoni said...

you are attacking the wrong group of people in going after teachers. teachers are forced to teach to the test or lose their jobs. as for private schools, do some research. they are just as guilty of teaching to tests as public schools, only they have no standards for teachers. the reason they work is low teacher-to-student ratios.

the problem with our educational system is the fact that teachers have been robbed of almost all authority and content decisions.

blame the nea if you want, but don't lump all teachers in that group. there are four national teacher's organizations and three of them disagree with the nea.

i hope you research your topic and don't just attack teachers. we are always being under-valued and maliciously attacked for problems that should be solved at home. we are an easy target for all our educational system's shortcomings, yet the current troubles all coincide with taking power away fro the teachers. how about as a nation we start treating teachers with the dignity we'd give any professional.

July 8, 2004 at 8:17 PM  
Blogger Liberal_Slayer said...

I'm not attacking individual teachers, but the teaching establishment which is against competition (charter schools, vouchers, etc), against standardized testing, for teaching political correctness, and for being more concerned about student self-esteem than performance.

I'll get more into this when I finish my research (trust me, it's long...likely a 3 part series), but in general, public schools receive more per student than private schools. Public schools have more administrators per student than private schools. Public schools are grossly inefficient and wasteful in spending.

One simple example is computers in the school. There are very few computers in the K-8 school my son attends. Why? Because computers skills are irrelevant to the 3 R's. My son picks them up because that's what I do. Those skills can also be picked up in high school and college but should NOT be a priority especially in lower grades.

And I can speak from experience both for me AND my son that they do NOT coach on the standardized tests. I never received any coaching on the PSAT, SAT, or ACT and my son has never received coaching on the MEAP or Colorado Tests. What you get is what you get and if they see a problem, the parents are informed and involved.

I do agree with a major part of the problem being parents, but the educational system must share the blame in that they deny willing parents the things they want...competition and choice.

Am I blaming individual teachers for the sad state of public schools in this country, no. But I am blaming the entire educational bureaucracy which includes teacher's unions.

My question for you is WHY would you defend a teacher that isn't doing their job? Why are the teacher's unions afraid of standardized testing? What are teacher's unions against competition? What are you afraid of? And finally, would you even believe any research I came up with that is critical of your profession?

July 9, 2004 at 8:22 AM  
Blogger eskadoni said...

1. teachers are given guidelines that correspond to what is on the standardized tests and are not allowed to deviate from those guidelines, therefore, they teach to the test.

2. you keep lumping all teachers and teacher's unions together without looking at the different groups involved. you hate the nea, yet refuse to acknowledge other unions or associations.

3. when did i defend a teacher not doing there job? i didn't. i don't think it's right to give students the answers, i won't defend breaking the rules. however, holding teachers responsible for student achievement only should go so far: some kids are not going to pass on their merits, unfortunately, some districts hold that against teachers.

4. we are not afraid of standardized tests, but you are putting to much credence in those tests.

5. most teachers have no problem with competition. anything that would improve student-to-teacher ratios would be welcomed, as that ratio is usually the key to success.

6. of course i'll believe credible research. But is every source fox news? come on

7. you seem to have real hostility towards teachers. what gives?

July 9, 2004 at 10:49 AM  
Blogger Liberal_Slayer said...

I don't have any hostility towards teachers per se...but the public education establishment.

I don't want to get too much into the reasons why I think that the public education establishment is failing our kids, I will detail that later.

I do respect the job that most individual teachers do, but I have little respect for public education establishment as a whole.

Charles, I know you're a teacher and I respect you and hope you do well in your profession. I don't indict teachers but unions and adminstrators will feel my wrath.

July 11, 2004 at 1:27 PM  
Blogger eskadoni said...

will they really feel your wraith? do other teachers read this blog? if it is particularly wraithful you might send it to the nea or any of the other unions, or the associations that also represent teachers. i'm just saying that i'm not sure they'll feel your wrath anymore than christians have felt mine. i don't mean to be sarcatic, it just seems that you like to overstate your place in the world almost as much as i do. i'm glad you hold no ill will toward individual teachers. peace.

July 11, 2004 at 8:24 PM  
Blogger Liberal_Slayer said...

Ok, no, the unions won't "feel" my wraith....they could care less what parents think to begin with...which is why my son is in a private school.

My point was that my attacks on the educational establishment are NOT against the teachers themselves...I know more than a few established teachers that feel frustrated by the bureaucracy of the establishment.

However, my sole issue with teachers stems from them supporting unions which do not represent the best interests of the students. The unions' primary purpose is supporting teacher interests...NOT student interests no matter how they spin it.

Question for you Charles:
Did you even consider applying at a private school? If not, why not?

July 12, 2004 at 7:42 AM  
Blogger eskadoni said...

i did consider it. but in the end i want to help people that haven't had it as good as i have. for many people public school is the only choice, so i wanted to help those people. what better gift can you give someone than to help them discover their path to success? also, most of these union concerns you have are with the nea. as i have said before, there are three other unions and one major association that were created because they disagree with the nea. teachers don't just roll over and take whatever the nea is pushing.

July 12, 2004 at 8:51 AM  
Blogger Liberal_Slayer said...

Since the union(s) leaders' negotiate the contracts with the school districts, what about the kids that attend schools in those districts that the NEA/AFT has negotiated contracts. What about those parents? It's the system that's broken. I don't blame the teachers as much as the unions and public education establishment as a whole that I loathe.

My fault with teachers is that they support unions (such as the AFT and NEA) that don't have the student's interests in heart. The purpose of the union is to work for their members...and as much as the unions may carp about the students, they're really working for the teachers.

It's much like real-estate salespeople. They want to sell you a house, but they really work for the seller, not the buyer. So they pretend to be working in the buyer's interests though they are being paid by the seller.

July 13, 2004 at 9:33 AM  
Blogger LittleOrangeFox said...

when I send you an email it does not work! I get a notice that it didnt send! Is your email right in the head??

July 14, 2004 at 3:36 PM  

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